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Vitor
Hello,

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

Regards,
Vitor
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jabbera

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor

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Vitor
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor


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Re: Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

Lars Francke-2
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor



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Re: Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

Jorge Costa

+1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO


On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor



Best Regards
Jorge Costa
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Re: Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

Vitor
I was hoping that the option was hidden somewhere.... :(

I also think that the old interface was better, my job got harder with this new interface.

I voted up the issue.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Jorge Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

+1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO


On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor




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Re: Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

Stas Vilchik
Hello Vitor,

Can you explain your use-case which got harder to do? Specifically, why you need the full list of violated rules.

Thanks.


Stas VILCHIK | SonarSource
Web Developer

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was hoping that the option was hidden somewhere.... :(

I also think that the old interface was better, my job got harder with this new interface.

I voted up the issue.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Jorge Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

+1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO


On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor





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Lars Francke-2
Hi,

I'm not Vitor but....

The old Issues Drilldown overview (<http://i.imgur.com/a5yr4zy.png>) was way more approachable than the new Issues detail filter and they serve different use cases.

What's basically missing is an overview of which folders and file have how many issues and which issues are the main offenders per file/folder by allowing to drill down. The new view focuses on single issues the old one on bigger aggregates which is obviously more useful to get a quick overview.

The old Issues drilldown was also very useful for rule maintenance reasons. See which rules don't make sense or need adjustments etc. which is now totally impossible because only 15 are being shown.

All in all it was _the_ main starting point to find problems for us and in my opinion was pretty much perfect and did not need changing at all.

I think both views have their place in Sonar but IMHO you did not enhance a piece of functionality. What you did was to remove one feature and replaced it by a different one that serves a different use case.

Cheers,
Lars

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Stas Vilchik <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello Vitor,

Can you explain your use-case which got harder to do? Specifically, why you need the full list of violated rules.

Thanks.


Stas VILCHIK | SonarSource
Web Developer

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was hoping that the option was hidden somewhere.... :(

I also think that the old interface was better, my job got harder with this new interface.

I voted up the issue.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Jorge Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

+1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO


On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor






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Vitor
Hello,

I make your words mine, Lars.

When I enter Sonar to see a project wealth I don't go hunt down for certain types of violation I consider prioritary, I rather look at which rules were violated, from blocker to minor, and compare its occurrences plus its severity to draw an act plan. A project could have a major rule with 50 violations, but maybe the five major violations of another kind are more relevant, or maybe it is easier to solve 100 violations of yet another rule since it would take some operations of find/replace. So, it is more of an empirical work of analysis that, by reason Lars already commented, was much simpler in the older view. The big picture was easier to see, now I have to deal with all the details in that big list and the filter doesn't help much. 

Cheers,
Vitor

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm not Vitor but....

The old Issues Drilldown overview (<http://i.imgur.com/a5yr4zy.png>) was way more approachable than the new Issues detail filter and they serve different use cases.

What's basically missing is an overview of which folders and file have how many issues and which issues are the main offenders per file/folder by allowing to drill down. The new view focuses on single issues the old one on bigger aggregates which is obviously more useful to get a quick overview.

The old Issues drilldown was also very useful for rule maintenance reasons. See which rules don't make sense or need adjustments etc. which is now totally impossible because only 15 are being shown.

All in all it was _the_ main starting point to find problems for us and in my opinion was pretty much perfect and did not need changing at all.

I think both views have their place in Sonar but IMHO you did not enhance a piece of functionality. What you did was to remove one feature and replaced it by a different one that serves a different use case.

Cheers,
Lars

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Stas Vilchik <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello Vitor,

Can you explain your use-case which got harder to do? Specifically, why you need the full list of violated rules.

Thanks.


Stas VILCHIK | SonarSource
Web Developer

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was hoping that the option was hidden somewhere.... :(

I also think that the old interface was better, my job got harder with this new interface.

I voted up the issue.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Jorge Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

+1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO


On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vitor,

I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview should be brought back.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all. If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could act as a grouping, but that is not the case.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:

There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you are asking. See the screenshot:

 

http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz

 

From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1

 

Hello,

 

In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide what to do.

 

Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like in the previous versions?

 

Regards,

Vitor







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jieryn
I agree with most of what is being expressed here.

I would also add that the entire violation area will change color on
hover, but it is not a link to the actual defect context. I have move
my mouse way over to the far end of the context and click a tiny
little > button. It would be more useful if the main area of the
defect context would just launch the details directly.

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I make your words mine, Lars.
>
> When I enter Sonar to see a project wealth I don't go hunt down for certain
> types of violation I consider prioritary, I rather look at which rules were
> violated, from blocker to minor, and compare its occurrences plus its
> severity to draw an act plan. A project could have a major rule with 50
> violations, but maybe the five major violations of another kind are more
> relevant, or maybe it is easier to solve 100 violations of yet another rule
> since it would take some operations of find/replace. So, it is more of an
> empirical work of analysis that, by reason Lars already commented, was much
> simpler in the older view. The big picture was easier to see, now I have to
> deal with all the details in that big list and the filter doesn't help much.
>
> Cheers,
> Vitor
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Lars Francke <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not Vitor but....
>>
>> The old Issues Drilldown overview (<http://i.imgur.com/a5yr4zy.png>) was
>> way more approachable than the new Issues detail filter and they serve
>> different use cases.
>>
>> What's basically missing is an overview of which folders and file have how
>> many issues and which issues are the main offenders per file/folder by
>> allowing to drill down. The new view focuses on single issues the old one on
>> bigger aggregates which is obviously more useful to get a quick overview.
>>
>> The old Issues drilldown was also very useful for rule maintenance
>> reasons. See which rules don't make sense or need adjustments etc. which is
>> now totally impossible because only 15 are being shown.
>>
>> All in all it was _the_ main starting point to find problems for us and in
>> my opinion was pretty much perfect and did not need changing at all.
>>
>> I think both views have their place in Sonar but IMHO you did not enhance
>> a piece of functionality. What you did was to remove one feature and
>> replaced it by a different one that serves a different use case.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lars
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Stas Vilchik
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Vitor,
>>>
>>> Can you explain your use-case which got harder to do? Specifically, why
>>> you need the full list of violated rules.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stas VILCHIK | SonarSource
>>> Web Developer
>>> http://sonarsource.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was hoping that the option was hidden somewhere.... :(
>>>>
>>>> I also think that the old interface was better, my job got harder with
>>>> this new interface.
>>>>
>>>> I voted up the issue.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Jorge Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 it was easier to see the context of issue before. Now source code is
>>>>> in all different context makes reviewing harder IMO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015, 00:22 Lars Francke <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Vitor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that the new interface is useless for quick overviews. It's a
>>>>>> pity that this feature is lost. This is one issue you could vote for:
>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SONAR-6400 but I agree that the old overview
>>>>>> should be brought back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Lars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz
>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it does not help since it shows a limited list of rules, not all.
>>>>>>> If all rules violated by the analysed project were listed, this filter could
>>>>>>> act as a grouping, but that is not the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Michael Barry
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a rule filter that is selectable that does what I think you
>>>>>>>> are asking. See the screenshot:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://imgur.com/VDyhcdz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Vitor Medina Cruz [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:43 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> Subject: [sonar-user] Grouping Issues pages in 5.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Sonar 5.1 the issues page changed and now it shows every issue in
>>>>>>>> a big list. Before version 5.1 they were grouped by issue type and it was
>>>>>>>> much more easy to have a big picture of  violations and find the ones more
>>>>>>>> interesting while leaving others less interesting for another moment. As it
>>>>>>>> is now it gets very difficult to track violations in that big list, and the
>>>>>>>> filtering does not help because I don't know what I am looking for, I am
>>>>>>>> just looking at the sonar violations results so that I can, then, decide
>>>>>>>> what to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a way in 5.1 to see the issues grouped by type, just like
>>>>>>>> in the previous versions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vitor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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